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Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Remember the KGB Coup?

The Associated Press reports:

Vladimir Kryuchkov, the former KGB chief who spearheaded a failed coup against Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, has died, officials said Sunday. He was 83. Kryuchkov died Friday in Moscow of an unspecified illness, a spokesman for the Federal Security Service said. Kryuchkov worked with future Soviet leader Yury Andropov in the Hungarian Embassy in the 1950s. When Andropov became head of the KGB in 1967, he helped Kryuchkov rise through the ranks. Kryuchkov in 1974 was appointed chief of the KGB's First Main Directorate in charge of spying abroad. In 1988, Gorbachev appointed Kryuchkov as KGB chief. In August 1991, Kryuchkov joined other hard-line Communists who ousted Gorbachev and declared a state of emergency. The coup collapsed after three days, and Kryuchkov and other coup plotters were jailed but freed on an amnesty in early 1994. Last month, Kryuchkov warned of "big trouble" if a turf battle between security agencies continues to fester. He and other KGB veterans called on the feuding forces to unite behind President Vladimir Putin. Kryuchkov's funeral is planned for Tuesday.

Failed? Who says it failed? The KGB currently rules Russia, doesn't it?

3 comments:

Artfldgr said...

your right, it didnt fail.. it only failed from the perspective of who was trying to stand behind the podium... however its purpose was to put kgb on top, remove party, and put gru under kgb control.

let me know any other time in history where the person who foments a coup gets amnesty and then goes back to work?

one thing that happens when people get older is that they get tired. some get tired and know they are not long for this world, and that the choir triumphant is waiting.

thats when they are scary to the KGB... fear no longer works, and so there is not much you can do other than follow tradition.

anyone else care to talk about the tradition of people falling like flies during bad times?

Artfldgr said...

When Gorbachev was contacted on August 17 and 18 [1991] and a report was presented to him that everything [for the coup] was ready, he said: "Well, boys, you do whatever you think fit. I won't play your games any longer."
-- Valentin Falin, Head, International Department, Central Committee, CPSU; interviewed in Vlast, April 11, 2005


http://www.kommersant.com/p568802/

What was the reason for staging the coup in 1991 and who needed it?

There was no coup, it was a feint. Before leaving for holidays Gorbachev gave instructions for preparing extraordinary measures and working out models. These questions were discussed for a very long time. In December 1990 I spoke at a politburo meeting of the need to adopt extraordinary measures to cope with the grave economic situation in the country. It was necessary to introduce price control and demonopolization.

If it was a feint, what aims did it pursue?

It was planned to have a demonstration of force in February 1991. At that time tanks had no shells and soldiers had no cartriges for tommy-guns. This should have been a warning to those who intended to dismember the Soviet Union. Yeltsin wanted to turn the USSR into a confederation. The supreme authorities with Gorbachev at the head would have only representative functions, while all power would be concentrated in Yeltsin's hands in Moscow. And the regions would be ruled by the local heads. Yeltsin's main argument was as follows: Russia will cease to be the “milch cow” for all others, and will now look after itself properly.

In other words, it was intended to scare the West and our own separatists with the help of GKChP…

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So basically Valentin Falin confirms the position of Anatolly Golitsyns analysis...

and so there was no coup

and yet what does most of the world believe? even after such interviews in russian papers not western media...

ah... but there are others... read an exerpt from an interview with pastor stormer - None Dare Call It Treason (1964), its sequel, None Dare Call It Treason . . . 25 Years Later (1990)

Do you believe that KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn was essentially correct in his warning, published in New Lies for Old (1984) and The Perestroika Deception (1995), that the Communist Party of the Soviet Union planned to deceive the West by temporarily abandoning its public monopoly of power and dismantling the Soviet Union?

JS: Golitsyn was essentially correct in his 1984 and 1995 charges concerning the plans to deceptively “dismantle” the old Soviet Union. In 1987-89 I wrote extensively in newsletter and None Dare Call It Treason—25 Years Later spelling out five reasons they would proceed to do so. This was based on Golitsyn’s first book, some intelligence info which circulated in foreign intelligence circles to which I had access and my own analysis of Gorbachev’s speeches, etc. I saw five goals for the deception.
(1) Get desperately needed western aid for their failed economic system—it has worked!
(2) entice the world to disarm—it’s worked!
(3) calm some of the building pressures for real change in Russia [and]
(4) they are masters of deceit. Good magicians wave a hand in the air to get attention while the other does the dirty work. Since communism “died” look at what has happened in South and Central America, Africa, Southeast Asia and China.



Russia has ceased being a free and democratic country.
-- Andrei Illarionov, Putin's former economic advisor; quoted by BBC Online News, December 27, 2005

american for jesus said...

Maybe it's dezinformatsiya, or maybe the GRU is restive.

When Putin spoke at the GRU last year, he curried favor, going on about how he bought it a new building because it is so important, and talking about their common enemy (they think it's us). The GRU *is* important; it is also a fascist clique (look at the magazine "Zavtra"), and runs some of Russia's most elite hitmen.

The GRU have traditionally been competitors of the KGB in espionage. There are many stories of the GRU and the KGB outing each others' undercover agents in Chechnya.

A war between them seems plausible but very doubtful.