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Monday, June 18, 2007

Annals of Russian Hypocrisy and Self-Destruction

Do you dare to imagine, dear reader, how Russia would react if it were announced that President Bush were about to hold the fifth meeting of his presidency with Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev? The Russians would, of course, be screaming to high heaven about America's outrageous and provocative action. Yet, they have no problem repeatedly entertaining rabid anti-American maniac Hugo Chavez, or in supplying him with huge quantities of weapons. Itar-Tass reports:

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez will visit Russia on June 28-30, Venezuelan Ambassador to Russia Alexis Rafael Navarro Rojas told Itar-Tass on Friday. According to the embassy, the Venezuelan president will stay in Moscow on June 28 and 29, and make a trip to Russia’s south on June 30. That will be the fifth visit of Chavez to Russia. He paid two official visits in May 2001 and November 2004, and two working visits – in October 2001, and July 2006. “Russia is our strategic ally,” Chavez reiterates specifically. In his words, an agenda of the upcoming talks in Moscow has not been fully coordinated, however, it must include energy cooperation. “Russian companies should have a possibility to take part in the design and construction of the so-called southern gas pipeline that will link Venezuela and Argentina,” he said. “The military technical cooperation should be considered undoubtedly as it is necessary for Venezuela to protect itself on the ground, on and under water and in the air,” Chavez said. “Venezuela is studying the possibility to purchase Russia’s submarines,” presidential military adviser, General Alberto Mueller Rojas said on Thursday. “The possibility to conclude such a deal is under discussion, but funds for this purpose have not been assigned yet,” the general said, commenting on information spread by the Russian mass media earlier. Most probably, this agreement may be signed during the Venezuelan leader’s forthcoming visit to Moscow.
Russia is intentionally baiting the United States, by far the world's most powerful country and with a host of powerful allies, into a second cold war. History will record this is as the beginning of the end for Russia.

7 comments:

Russian said...

RE: ...how Russia would react if it were announced that President Bush were about to hold the fifth meeting of his presidency with Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev? .

Hah-hah-hah! What a comparison! Isn't she mentally disabled?
Hugo Chaves is the democratically elected President of Venesuela! The USA have diplomatic relations with this country and recognize him as the President. Hugo Chavez is a highly respected in the world political leader (the fact that you do not like him means nothing). He got louder applause when spoke in UN than George Bush. He has not ordered military attacks against any nation so far, and it looks like he is not going to. He is not a terrorist, is not wanted by Interpol. Any any political leader in the world leader may take it as honer to meet him.

As about your question, how Russia would react had G. Bush met Shamil Bassayev-I do not know.
On my point of vew, in such a case scenario, inviting Ossama ben Laden to Russia for medical treatment and giving him a place for another base somewhere in Altay mountains would be appropriate.

La Russophobe said...

The democratically elected leader of Chechnya was deposed by Vladimir Putin, you witless dolt.

Isn't personal abuse a sign that you have no signifificant substantive argument?

You think you can have your cake and eat it too. That's what Brezhnev thought. You'll see, Mr. Genius, you'll see.

Kaptur said...

You also forgot to mention, that "rabid anti-American maniac Hugo Chavez" supplied poor neighborhoods in New York with heating oil at a cheap price last winter, while Basaev didn't supply anything but death.

Wasn't he killed, by the way?

Also: It doesn't seem to me that someone being a "rabid anti-American" would supply poor neighborhoods-in-New-York-with-heating-oil-at-a-cheap-price-during-winters, do you Russofoba?

Looke said...

1) kaptur, as far as I remember, russian forces have supplied nothing but death in Chechnya- not measured in innocent hundreds, like in Dubrovka (russian special forces killed the most of them, BTW), but tens of thousands.

2) "supplied poor neighborhoods in New York with heating oil at a cheap price last winter" - well, this Chavez is someone, isn't he? He has so rich citizens, that he decided to help the other nation. However, I think that it would be better to supply Moscow's citizens with the same heating oil- mainly because of the poverty leaking out in every corner of every Moscow's street and long, cold winters.

I think that Vladi met Chavez in order to beg for additional funds for Moscow's poorest. A nation richer than US has to be great, thus I think this is the appropriate level of intellect for Vladi Putain - friends like Lukashenko (very nice dictator), Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (this guy once saw the prophet but sharted his pants) or Chavez (sexually obsessed with Condoleezza Rice). Now, these are the mighty&only friends you can count on, Russians- the political elite of the XXI century.

You will not have anymore, unless you will shut your stupid imperial prejudices and biases, your feeling that the world has used your country and that the history treated you unfair. Because all that we can now see is pathetic rather, and does not resemble the great Imperium, but a bunch of snakes kept in the closet and released from time to time, to uncover true hatred you bear in your Russian hearts.

Kaptur said...

Looke, why are you taking for granted that I'm Russian?

First of all, by using Russofoba's way of speaking, there's a big deal of hypocrisy in people who condemn islamic fundamentalism, yet justify Chechen separatism (inspired by the same islamic fundamentalism), which, by the way, caused the death of many Europeans, for instance of 4 British citizens in 1998.

Have you ever been to Moscow? Do you now what winters are they like? I've been into houses where there are constantly 27 degrees during winters. And I'm talking about ordinary people, not the rich ones. Poverty isn't "leaking out in every corner of every Moscow's street and long, cold winters" just because you think so. If you were talking about the Glubinka, you could be right, but you're totally wrong about Moscow (and St. Petersburg). I'm not saying that every single citizen of Moscow is swimming in gold, but the poverty in the Russian Federation's two biggest cities is not stronger than in any other big city in the world. I've been there many times.

Anyway, you should research far better the Chechnya topic, before saying what Russian forces have or have not supplied. And personally I would be more careful with criticising others, if my country invaded 2 foreign nations in just 2 years time and every justification to do so turned out to be a lie. Oh, sorry, I assumed you're American, my fault. Aren't you, anyway?

Of course, president Chavez didn't go personally to bring the oil, but the Venezuelan state controlled oil company did. And I don't know why, but it did, that's a fact, one of those undebatables. Just do a little research, then address me.

The Dubrovka operation proved to be a disaster, noone can deny it. But can you imagine what could have happened if those bombs exploded? There were fake charges, but aslo real ones. And if they exploded, they would have certainly killed all the hostages.

The main failure in Dubrovka was, that people did not receive the counter-poison in time, and that has cost many lives.

Looke, look who is speaking about prejudices? Are you convinced that your last paragraph applies only to the government or also to normal people?

Russian said...

To LR:

The democratically elected leader of Chechnya was deposed by Vladimir Putin.

Yes he was. Because he failed to check the radical islamists in his state and let them to invade the neighbouring Dagestan. And they were killing Russian citizen there. So that was his Chechnya leader's choice.
I hope, you do not think that the democratically elected leader of Chechnya was Basayev?
Basayev was a world recognized terrorist whose favorite way of fighting was taking hostages. First in Budyonovsk where he took the city hospital and used pregnant women from the maternity wards as a human shield, than was the theatre on Dubrovka, than the school in Beslan.

Who is Chaves I already wrote you.

And you found they are of the same kind.
What other signifificant substantive argument is needed to prove your mental disability?

Shutnik said...

"The democratically elected leader of Chechnya was deposed by Vladimir Putin. "


Which one are your referring to?


"how Russia would react if it were announced that President Bush were about to hold the fifth meeting of his presidency with Chechen rebel leader Shamil Basayev? "

Dunno. Maybe sent it's condolences to Mrs. Bush?

Basayev's dead, ya know?