tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post6420508206940140693..comments2023-10-06T10:10:06.982-04:00Comments on La Russophobe: Ryzhkov on Neo-Soviet RussiaLa Russophobehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05672264388217953086noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-22102863304020149482007-05-20T10:11:00.000-04:002007-05-20T10:11:00.000-04:00elmer here again.I am amazed at the extent to whic...elmer here again.<BR/><BR/>I am amazed at the extent to which russkies will try to rationalize brutal, authoritarian government in Russia. And it happens all over, on numerous web sites.<BR/><BR/>Now, apparently, the model for Putin's authoritarian government is - the Sultan of Brunei.<BR/><BR/>Russians, especially women, have left the "managed democracy" of Russia for a better life elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>They have predominantly fled to Western Europe, the US and Canada.<BR/><BR/>I'm not aware of any Russians beating on the door to try to get into Brunei.<BR/><BR/>"Mighty" Oily Mother Orthodox Russia modeling itself after tiny Brunei to justify Putin's (and Stalin's) dictatorship.<BR/><BR/>Who would ever have thought such a thing was possible? What a hoot!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-13454542163818460102007-05-20T09:01:00.000-04:002007-05-20T09:01:00.000-04:00elmer here.You russkies really, really are way off...elmer here.<BR/><BR/>You russkies really, really are way off the mark.<BR/><BR/>Democracy is only about a better way of living? About getting a better glass of vodka and a better piece of kolbasa on your table?<BR/><BR/>"Russia has what is has"?<BR/><BR/>What utter, blubbering nonsense.<BR/><BR/>Where have I heard this before?<BR/><BR/>Oh, yes - IN EVERY FORMER SOVOK REPUBLIC.<BR/><BR/>From all the former commie thugs.<BR/><BR/>Who now call themselves "capitalists," but are just a bunch of commie thugs, meaning that, through privatization and rigged bids, they stole all the property, and now want government to step on the necks of people, so they can hold on to wealth and power.<BR/><BR/>I wonder what the Oily Russkie Orthodox Church has to say about democracy? Oh, yeah, that's right - they're all former KGB agents also.<BR/><BR/>You missed the whole point.<BR/><BR/>Democracy is about freedom. It is about the relationship of government to the individual. It is the relationship of individuals to each other.<BR/><BR/>It's not about the government putting a better piece of babka, or better quality kasha on the table, or a nicer DVD player in your dining room, or more CDs of Via Gra (the girl group, not the drug) in your home.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And it's not about wealthy people being able to bribe their way around everything, like they do in Russkie land.<BR/><BR/>Do you people have no concept of freedom at all? Have the sovoks really messed you up that badly?<BR/><BR/>And by the way, trading security for liberty is a very, very serious question in democratic countries.<BR/><BR/>I was talking about the Taras Zeleniak case. From his own home, he posted some very, very mild things on a Ukrainian web site.<BR/><BR/>And, in the time-honored russkie tradition, he was arrested for nothing at all. He doesn't pose any sort of threat to Putin or to any of the other russkie thugs in power. But, the russkie way is to smash individuals for no reason at all.<BR/><BR/>And, by the way, people really don't have to go through body cavity searches in the US in order to fly on airplanes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-60488194995719923652007-05-20T05:21:00.000-04:002007-05-20T05:21:00.000-04:00To ElmerRe: "Don't have a dictatorship, or an auth...To Elmer<BR/><BR/>Re: "Don't have a dictatorship, or an authoritarian government."<BR/><BR/>Democracy itself is not a social goal.<BR/>The goal is a better living for people. People want to have food, housing, healthcare, social wellfare, education for their children.<BR/><BR/>Democracy is one of the ways to provide a better living.<BR/>But not the only possible way.<BR/><BR/>In the Sultanat of Bruney, for example, people live happily under the rule of their absolutly autoritarian ruler. They have free higher education, free health care, housing, family support programs. Do Americans have the same?<BR/> Try to convince them to accept your democracy.<BR/>The right to demonstrate against the government is a good thing too. But if the government is doing a good job, what use of this right?<BR/><BR/>Secondly: Democracy can be harmfull for the state and for citizens when the nation is in crisis or in danger. At war time, for example. People understand that, and yeld some of their freedoms. You already agreed to take you shoes off for checking before boarding the plane? Your phone calls monitored? Tomorrow a terrorist may hide the bomb in his rectum and you will be asked to show you anus before getting allowed to board. And you will understand that's reasonable and you will not appeal for your anus's right for privacy. <BR/>When Putin became the president Russia was in crisis.<BR/> In 2000, before Putin took over, Condoleza Rice said: 'Now the danger for us is not from a strong Russia but from the weak one".<BR/> He has managed to save the country. He is pulling her out from that crisis. For that he had to press on the separatists and oligarhs. He made them to pay taxes. <BR/>Not everything is well yet? Well, not at once, it takes time.<BR/>There is no other person to do a better job in Russia now. So Russians have what they have.<BR/> Russians agred with some freedom limitations to save their country. They still have as much of the freedoms as they need. If they need more they will get more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-44607249640857390902007-05-20T04:36:00.000-04:002007-05-20T04:36:00.000-04:00Don't enact laws about throwing people in jail for...<I>Don't enact laws about throwing people in jail for criticizing Putin ("extremism").</I><BR/><BR/>Do you mean Boris Stomakhin case?<BR/><BR/>And now imagine this: <BR/><BR/>Some guy, journalist in the USA says: "The USA is shit! It does not deserve to exist. Fight, fight, this stupid bloody country. Drawn it in its own blood. More attacks like the one on 9. 11. 2001. The USA President is a bloody stupid covboy, he must be killed...the american people do not deserve to live because they support him... Such a nation must be destroyed... Kill, kill, kill!..." and so forth and alike.<BR/>And he printed all this in his own newspaper to sell people out on the street, and he sent it to the Al-Caeda to be posted on their Internet site.<BR/><BR/>How would American Law treat that guy?<BR/><BR/>That was what Stomakhin did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-8250604414073143682007-05-19T13:47:00.000-04:002007-05-19T13:47:00.000-04:00elmer here.Hector, are you really that sick and tw...elmer here.<BR/><BR/>Hector, are you really that sick and twisted an individual, that you believe people are supposed to like Stalin because he destroyed the USSR?<BR/><BR/>Don't you get it at all?<BR/><BR/>What the heck have the sovoks done to you?<BR/><BR/>It isn't about hating the USSR or destroying Russia.<BR/><BR/>Stalin killed 30 million people.<BR/><BR/>He did not do that alone - he did that with the help of many, many russkies.<BR/><BR/>Anyone with any sense of conscience or morality will cry out and say "this is wrong - don't do this, don't kill other people."<BR/><BR/>It's not that complicated, Hector.<BR/><BR/>The other part of it is - be free!<BR/><BR/>Don't have a dictatorship, or an authoritarian government.<BR/><BR/>Don't let the government beat you over the head.<BR/><BR/>Don't let the government arrest Taras Zeleniak for posting what he thinks, his opinion, on a web site in Ukraine.<BR/><BR/>Don't enact laws about throwing people in jail for criticizing Putin ("extremism").<BR/><BR/>Aren't people allowed to have an opinion?<BR/><BR/>Aren't people allowed to think?<BR/><BR/>Aren't people allowed to say "no" to the brutality of government?<BR/><BR/>Aren't people allowed to gather peacefully?<BR/><BR/>Aren't people allowed to travel freely?<BR/><BR/>Aren't people allowed to be safe and secure in their own homes?<BR/><BR/>What on earth have the sovoks done to you?<BR/><BR/>Your only criticism of Stalin is that he "mismanaged" the USSR?<BR/><BR/>Apparently, the USSR is a huge corporation to be managed by a manager.<BR/><BR/>Hector, government is not merely a corporation.<BR/><BR/>What on earth have the sovoks done to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-15563300657987691412007-05-18T18:14:00.000-04:002007-05-18T18:14:00.000-04:00This is Hector,Kim knows as much about Russia as a...This is Hector,<BR/><BR/>Kim knows as much about Russia as a chimpanzee knows about water skiing. First of all Lenin did not take power from the Czar, it was a coalition of left-wing parties led by Mensheviks that forced the Czar to abdicate, although many of the workers who took part were influenced by Bolshevik politics. Lenin seized power from this provisional government, by convincing the working class that they are no hope and will continue to bleed the workers in the imperialist war. Lenin had won over the working class in October 1917 to the Bolsheviks. <BR/><BR/>You say Stalin destroyed the USSR killing more Russians than Hitler? So why do you hate him so much (especially since the vast majority of those he killed were Communists)? As I've said before, he did America, Britain, and imperialism many favors by selling out workers' struggles abroad. It was Stalinist corruption and mismanagement that destroyed the USSR, a program that started with Stalin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-22124310653511658952007-05-18T08:41:00.000-04:002007-05-18T08:41:00.000-04:00Your "logic" is a bit flawed my dear. Lenin wasn'...Your "logic" is a bit flawed my dear. Lenin wasn't popular when he took power from the Tsar. Martin Luther King wasn't popular when he changed the U.S. constitution. Most revolutionaries begin with only small group of ardent followers.<BR/><BR/>Stalin was wildly popular. He destroyed the USSR utterly, killing more Russians than Hitler, and now the USSR no longer exists. Shamil Basayev was extremely popular in Chechyna -- does that mean Russians should accept him?<BR/><BR/>You really should think a bit before you write.<BR/><BR/>Despite modest improvements in Russia's economics picture, due solely to the accident of oil revenues, Russia is still losing 1 million people from the population ever year, AIDS is out of control, and the average wage is $2.50. Russia has alienated the entire world and finds itself surrounded by enemies. Russia's governmental performance scores from international ratings groups are consistently abysmal, lower than many third-world countries. <BR/><BR/>The Russian people destroyed their nation twice in the last century, I guess they are more than prepared to do it again. But as we say in America: Three strikes and you're out!La Russophobehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05672264388217953086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25230932.post-2341939402379105802007-05-17T23:46:00.000-04:002007-05-17T23:46:00.000-04:00Re: That's a nice bunch of words there, Mr. Ryzhko...Re: <B>That's a nice bunch of words there, Mr. Ryzhkov, but answer us this -- When are you simply going to shut up, stand and fight...?</B><BR/><BR/>I have the answer. <BR/><BR/>It is in the text of the article.<BR/> <BR/>Here: <BR/>[...In the past seven years, Russian gross domestic product has increased almost 60 percent and citizens' income has doubled.<BR/>That's why Russians are so tolerant of the loss of civil and social rights...]<BR/><BR/>And here:<BR/> [...despite the authoritarian crackdown, Putin's approval ratings continue to soar at about 80 percent. A recent poll showed that 65 percent of Russians want him to serve a third term...]<BR/><BR/>If Ryzhkov or Kasparov becomes the Russian Prezident, Russian citizens may be allowed to elect the governers and watch a few independent federal TV chanals but their income will drop for sure.<BR/><BR/>So the answer is:<BR/><BR/>When Ryzhkov gets approval rating of Putin(80%). And Putin gets today’s Ryzhkov's approval rating of 0.2%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com